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Today's announcement is of course no surprise to anyone inside MS. The only surprise is that it was such a short delay announced.

Basically we do not believe Vista will make January 2007 or even March 2007. Anyone with any access knows what a frankenstein's monster NT is on the inside. At some point there is a law of diminishing returns trying to do anything to it at all, it seems like that limit is being reached today. The release is pushed back because of bugs but fixing those bugs will create more bugs. It is just godawful to be honest. And the process gets in the way at every step.

At some point we will have to do something and i know at least some in my team privately agree with me. We will have to throw out everything and start again. This is what Apple did with OSX, and sure it was painful, but it worked and now they're kicking our asses. We should have done that in 2000. Now it is even more obvious we should do it. Start again and just run a compatibility layer on top. Apple did it with classic why can't we???

IF we manage to ship vista at ALL then it is a miracle and the absolute last rev we can possible do working like this. It is insane the manhours wasted rearranging a house of cards. We need to START AGAIN PEOPLE.

After vista if we don't do this i am outta here. For every step forward there is a step back. After 5 years who can be proud of the actual distance forward they have come??

I didn't sign up for this BS. And you know the rumors that apple has a full DBFS for 10.5. I want to be working on that, i need to feel like i'm creating something good, not fighting 10 years old cruft every step of the way. I know i am not the only person who feels this way!!


Either we do an OSX or Vista is the end of the line, YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!!!

Quando eu falei de arquitetura "macarrônica" e compatibilidade retroativa eu fui bonzinho. O cara aí, anônimo (obviamente), fala do NT "monstro de frankenstein".

Quando o Jim Allchin, 'arquiteto chefe' do Vista, apelou para um "reset" do projeto em meados do ano passado, ele já culpava a complexa arquitetura do bichinho.

Que tem 50 milhões de linhas de código. 6 bilhões de dólares. US$120/linha de código. Uns 720k pontos de função? US$ 8,333.33/FP. Parece razoável? ROI em 5 anos?

Razoável, pelo que sinalizam alguns comentários, é um novo 'reset'. Mas a manutenção do Ballmer e sua 'máfia' resultará em um SP4. Com uma interface mais bonitinha. E só.

Minha única dúvida (razoável): o que impede o Steve (Jobs) de liberar o OS X para outros fornecedores de hardware? Só birra?

Ah, qual a diferença do OS X para o Vista?

Microsoft employees are excited about OS X...


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